It's Time to Put Out the Joe Kumar Fire With Some FACTS!

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Here I am waking up to a “hate” phone call from someone I don’t even know, and “hate” email that I received from Joe Kumar this morning.  I found spam all over my forum from Joe, sharing this haterism.

I can’t believe I’m even writing this, I had an awesome update to share with you today, but I guess I have to, since everything he’s talking about is completely false!

The email he sent out was a blatant attempt to wreck my reputation. He’s even trying to bribe people to pass on the email he wrote to further destroy my reputation.

Yesterday, we had a 2 minute conversation on MSN, and he called me, to talk about the misunderstandings we had.

When we hung up the phone I had no idea that he was even upset at me until today. We talked about why I didn’t give him a higher commission, since I felt it wasn’t fair that he had a free membership, plus $20 per direct referral like he wanted.

When we got off the phone he told me “I’m sorry about sending that email to the member, and I won’t do it anymore.”  (I guess he doesn't stick to his word.)

And we hung up, there was no name calling, there was no threats like he claims, I have no reason to threaten anyone.

I never once laughed at him, I never call him a kid, and we didn't even talk about Gary Halbert like he claims.  In fact, I didn’t even know him and Gary had gotten into it, until today where he wrote about it in his email that I laughed at him about it.

How can I be blamed for something I had no prior knowledge about?

The whole Gary Halbert thing is news to me, this is ridiculous!

My fiancée was here when I talked to him, but unluckily I didn’t tape the conversation, I didn’t see a reason to. But now, I really wish I did. :-( ... This way you would have some more facts.

Anyways, I don’t want to play the hear se game, nor he said this, and I said that, rather I’m going to give you “un-deniable proof” of the allegations Mr. Joe Kumar has made about me.

http://www.wealthysecrets.net/joekumar.html

I’ll let you decide on your own, based on the previous conversations Joe and I have had.

This video starts with the initial contact email that I made requesting a JV for his book, it’s at the end of this page if you want to see the offer I made him, which he declined.

I offered him a free membership into my newsletter, and he declined it, because I was “unknown” at the time, and that was fine I bought the book like he wanted me to, and went about my business.

Yes, you’ll see how he suggested for me to buy the book.  Here’s my “PayPal” receipt.

eCheck Sent (ID #54E312833L409123E)

Name: Anand Kumar (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
Email: joe@joekumar.com

Total Amount:
-27.00

Date:
May 3, 2003
Time:
07:07:18
Status:
Cleared

Subject: Here's my payment ...

Note:

Hi Joe,

As per our email conversations here's the $27 payment for your fine eBook :-)

Look forward to receiving it.

Hmm, this proves that I didn't pay by Clickbank doesn't it Joe?

Yes, in the video you'll get to read the email that he sent me suggesting I pay by PayPal.

http://www.wealthysecrets.net/joekumar.html

Later in the video, you will see how Joe emailed me requesting the FREE membership, because he had seen so many marketers promoting me, and he wanted to profit from it as well.

Yes, I stuck to my word and gave him a fr.ee membership, eventhough he had declined it in the past.

I won’t try to spread rumors, or play childish games, I’ll let the proof speak for itself!

http://www.wealthysecrets.net/joekumar.html

What’s the real reason Joe is upset at me?

My guess is as good as yours, but I believe it’s because I didn’t Give him the higher commission like he wanted. The way I see it is, “Beggars can’t be choosers”

When Jerome Chapman, Bryan Winters, Allen Says, Ian Herculson, and others began promoting the newsletter, none of them requested a free membership, nor a higher commission, in fact "they’re all paying" for their membership.

So why would I make an exception now?

Especially to someone I just gave a free membership to?

When Allen Says emailed me asking if I was going to be around for a long time, because his reputation was at stake, I assured him that I would be, because I've got much grander plans, then to be a "fly-by-night" type of guy.  I plan to be around for a very long time, otherwise, why would I give you the contact information in the initial email you received about me?

Those of you who have gotten to know me, know that I would go the extra mile to ensure that you too will be successful.  I've even spent time on the phone with some of you at my expense explaining things, and walking you through different aspects of successfully running your business.

I've been working on this concept for 2 years, and developing the newsletter since last November, why would I want to go out of my way to ruin my own reputation, and not be able to do business online?  I've worked far too long, and much too hard, to let it slip away at a blink of an eye.

As for the missing members…

There are 2 autoresponders involved in the newsletter, one is for the paid newsletter, and one is for the leads, which each and every member receives upon completion of the sign up.

When people join the newsletter they are given an autoresponder with pre-written follow ups already in place, and I’ve taken this a step further.

When you "the members" refer others to the website, your autoresponder *automatically* integrates with the pop up, so you get to keep your own leads.  I made sure I had this feature implemented because I wanted to help my members build their own optin list, rather then building one master list for myself like many others do.

http://www.wealthysecrets.net/joekumar.html

I hope I don't have to deal with this type of hatred again, because I've done nothing wrong here except deny a higher commission to someone that got a free membership, and I didn't want to be unfair to my hard working members.

Your Partner,

Wondering how this all begain?

Here's the email that I sent Joe.

In case you’re wondering, here’s the initial email I sent Joe….

Hello Joe,

My name is Carlos Garcia, founder of the
“Wealthy Secrets” Newsletter.

I want to personally share some great ideas with you,
since I feel that you will remarkably benefit from this.

This idea will provide you with FR.EE publicity, when
my new eBook is released in the next 48 hours.

Here’s exactly how I plan to give you FR.EE publicity
for your eBook that you have just released at
http://www.joekumar.com

First I’d like you to download my viral .pdf eBook below:
http://www.wealthysecrets.net/WS-brandable-pdf.zip

I’m willing to add your eBook as a recommended resource,
inside my eBook.

When you finish reading this eBook, you will quickly notice
that I only have a few Recommended Resources, because I
want the resources to be *relevant* to the people that read it.
I truly believe that your eBook would be a perfect fit.

But here’s where it gets even better, this is not the only place
where I will recommend you.

I also want to add you to my Recommended Resources
section found inside my main Marketing Handbook,
which you will have complete access to when you become
a member of my newsletter.

So, not only will I provide you with the FR.EE publicity inside
the Recommended Resources section, as well as recommended
inside my members area, but I will also provide you with a
complimentary FR.EE membership into my newsletter,
which is worth $197 a year.

I’m sure you will also be very pleased to know that I have a few
subscribers from Singapore. :-)

You can learn more about the newsletter at:
http://www.wealthysecrets.net

If you’re interested in getting this extra FR.EE publicity,
please contact me immediately, and I will make the
necessary changes inside my eBook, as I’m just ready
to release it to my subscribers.

I would love to review your eBook, if you are willing to
give me the opportunity to do so. Depending on my
review, I would be more than willing to write a personal
endorsement for it, and include it inside my eBook as
well as in my members area.

The book is going to be released within the next 48 - 72
hours, therefore I need to hear from you A.S.A.P., this
way I can make the necessary changes.

If you’re not interested in receiving this added FR.EE publicity,
please notify me, this way I will know you are not interested.

Thank you for your time.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Your Potential Partner,

Carlos Garcia

P.S. Just like you, I’m a young Netpreneur at 24 years old :-)

P.P.S. Here’s my personal contact details.

Phone: 519-439-5852
MSN Messenger – carlos_garcia11@hotmail.com
Yahoo Messenger – wealthysecrets2003@yahoo.com
ICQ – 129171895